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09762b No.86224

Ukraine war general

d34624 No.86225[Go to top]


bdf465 No.86226[Go to top]

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>ukraine russian war
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d34624 No.86227[Go to top]

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Zelenski is a globohomo puppet. Putin is an idiot and a warmonger. NATO is desperate for any chance to appear relevant. Nobody with a personal net worth of less than 10 million dollars wins. Ukraine war in a nutshell.

09762b No.86228[Go to top]

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>>86226

Stahp. Y R bein inconsiderate. The poor ukranians ;~;

>>86225
Ukraine strongk
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>>86226
Stahp. Y R bein inconsiderate.

The poor Persians ;~;

>>86225
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09762b No.86232[Go to top]

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>>86227
Why does Putin wanna be an 1800th century warlord, than?

d34624 No.86236[Go to top]

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>>86228
NATO interference has basically prolonged the conflict leading to additional suffering.
Kind of like with the Korean War.
The South had already more or less lost the war by the time the UN taskforce arrived. Then the UN propped them up, beat the norkies back where they entrenched themselves in the mountains, and it ended up turning into an endless back and forth bloodbath. The norkies even ran out of troops at one point and at the end it turned into a bloody proxy war between the USA and China at which time both the US and China realized how fucked up the situation it was and hammered out the armistice agreement. And that's why North Korea is so fucked up today. And I can see the Ukraine war ending up similarly. BRICS vs. NATO proxy war, massive suffering for the Ukrainian people. Pointless military casualties on both sides.

bdf465 No.86237[Go to top]

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>>86227
this

>>86228
the united states was never intended to be the worlds policemen

it should instead be taking care of its own and fixing t's own problems

09762b No.86239[Go to top]

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>>86236
It's already a bit of a proxy war. Now the Russians are pulling a draft. I don't know why they act like they hate their country so much.

They call the draft "mobilisation" but Vietnam era north Americans know what it is. It's a real shame.

09762b No.86241[Go to top]

>>86237
Well, we have an express interest in seeing the Russians loose the war, anyway.

d34624 No.86242[Go to top]

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>>86239
Yeah. I know several people IRL who basically left Russia to avoid mandatory military service and other shit they do to fuck up their kids.

bdf465 No.86244[Go to top]

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>>86241
i mean i guess?

i dont think it would make difference if they won or lost the war

nobody elses problem but their own

d34624 No.86245[Go to top]

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>>86239
Also their mental gymnastics is that they are just mobilizing their reservists. But basically every Russian over the age of 18 is forced to become a reservist. So it's a draft by every definition of the word. They just do the training in advance.

09762b No.86250[Go to top]

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>>86242
Yes, this is truem but Russia has never been high on the Amnesty International list for respecting human rights.

Chances are, the draft is going to be the straw that breaks the camels back. The Russian people are protesting more and more.

>>86245
>>86244
Europe is proving it can survive without Russian power and oil. And that's a huge milestone.

Ideally, I'd like to see Russia strengthen its ties with the west and become an economic powerhouse, but the ingredients for that are long since stepped on. Now, they seem to want to copy China and create lots of privately owned domestic brands. We'll see how that goes.

It's long term fucked, what Russia is doing to its own country when they could have been a better land.

d34624 No.86252[Go to top]

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>>86250
Russia was a prospective NATO member from shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union up until the Crimea situation. But it's more nuanced than just that because NATO ended up fucking around in all of their strategic interests in the middle east causing them to feel compelled to seek out new strategic interests.

So I'd hate to say it but politicians on our end were instrumental in souring that relationship.

f37afe No.86253[Go to top]

Its a good war because it rids us of more eastern europoors

09762b No.86254[Go to top]

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>>86252
Its not accident that NATO became the de facto anti-Rissia world police, but that's kinda what they turned into.

A real shame, because, as you said, Russia's record has been bad since Crimea and they can't seem to stabilise their own country. It's sad.

d34624 No.86257[Go to top]

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>>86254
They basically have an identically hegemonistic defense policy to the United States. NATO involvement in Syria, where Russia had(I think still has) an established military base would be the equivalent of if some kind of civil conflict broke out in Japan and say China decided to capitalize and take over Okinawa and install a US-unfriendly regime. How would the US react? They would go full ham trying to defend Okinawa. And if they couldn't stop Okinawa from getting fucked up then they would try to replace it with a comparably valuable strategic position. And that's exactly what happened with Crimea.

The Russian airbase is still there in Syria but the region is in such turmoil now that it no longer holds any real strategic value.

So what's something of equal or greater value to replace it with? Crimea. It gives them naval access to the Black Sea. And obviously Ukraine isn't exactly a super stable country to begin with since it's part of the former soviet shitshow so they found dissatisfied groups there to latch onto and start (or rather bolster) the whole Novorossiya movement in the Eastern Ukrainian territories.

d34624 No.86259[Go to top]

>>86257
Sorry I don't mean Syria specifically. The Syrian war happened a little after, but the entire region was basically thrown into Chaos around 2008-2012ish, which lowered the strategic value of Russia's middle eastern positions significantly. The Syria shit was at the tail end of that saga.

bdf465 No.86260[Go to top]

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>>86250
basically what im saying is we should apply a non-interventionist policy

which is basically a fuck around and find out policy

because clearly what we've been doing isn't working

d34624 No.86261[Go to top]

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>>86260
Now to be fair technically military intervention is a secondary consequence of the real reasoning of US involvement in the middle east.

bdf465 No.86262[Go to top]

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>>86261
it is, yes

some would argue that operation desert storm is more or less why 9/11 occurred

d34624 No.86263[Go to top]

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>>86262
>BUT CNN SAYS THEY WERE LITERALLY PULLING HECKIN' BABIES OUT OF INCUBATORS AND THROWING THEM ON THE FLOOR

bdf465 No.86264[Go to top]

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>>86263
yeah, like when we were told we invade afghanistan (lol lmao) and then invade iraq because saddam was blowing up babies or something… uhhhh… weapons of mass destruction… yeah that

then the west kills gaddafi furthering the demise of the west within a 10 year or so time span

great shit… amirite?

d34624 No.86265[Go to top]

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>>86264
Here's a totally organic™ Libyan rebel who allegedly got most of their guns by overtaking a Libyan armory™. Let's see if you can spot what's wrong with this picture.

bdf465 No.86269[Go to top]

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>>86265
ngl i am bit lost on this one

my memory isnt doing so well lol

d34624 No.86270[Go to top]

>>86269
He's holding a pristine Belgian FAL rifle. It's also a weapon that the Libyan army wasn't known to hold in surplus. So they were either armed via external arms deals or… oh I don't know… maybe NATO surplus drops.

bdf465 No.86273[Go to top]

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>>86270
okay, that's what i was guessing here

they should be using AK variants

hell even M16's would be a little more believable

d34624 No.86275[Go to top]

>>86273
Yeah. I think the Libyan national guard at the time used some kind of AK Variant. Libyan positions weren't being ambushed by farmers with pitchforks like the western media would have had you believe at the time. The FAL has a much longer reach than AKs. Which is how they were able to overwhelm Gaddafi's ground positions so quickly. And of course the aerial solution was completely shut down by NATO aircraft when it came to that.

4f1b68 No.86276[Go to top]

>>86273
Why u no love Pipes no more :c ?

4f1b68 No.86279[Go to top]

MIGIE PAY TENTION TO MEEEEEE

bdf465 No.86280[Go to top]

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>>86275
makes sense actually

the middle east to this is well known for using AK variants

so that doesnt come to any surprise to me

>>86276
you keep fading in and out of this place

idk lol

d34624 No.86281[Go to top]

MIGIE PAY ATTENTION TO PIBES

4f1b68 No.86282[Go to top]

>>86281
CAT HAV SEGS WITH ME AND MIGIE
>>86280
I dont have much time to post running an orphanage

d34624 No.86283[Go to top]

>>86280
Funnily enough, if memory serves it's actually the AK74 that Gaddafi's army used. Which seems kind of counter-intuitive since that didn't leave them able to make use of seized ammunition from any potential rival groups in the area.

bdf465 No.86285[Go to top]

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>>86282
oh, well that explains it

>>86283
well if thats the case then those came from russia since the 74 became the main weapon used in the soviet union in the 80's and still are today

other satellite soviet nations stuck with their version of the 47

d34624 No.86288[Go to top]

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>>86285
Yeah they probably picked them up for a discount when the soviet union collapsed.

bdf465 No.86290[Go to top]

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>>86288
i am willing to bet thats exactly what happend

it would make tons of sense

hell, the afghans got tons of loot from the soviets after kicking their asses

now they got some shiny new burger toys now just recently

will the west learn to stop getting involved with shit? of course not! hahahaha

d34624 No.86291[Go to top]

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>>86290
Hell, ironically enough, they might have actually bought them from Ukraine. Since IIRC after the collapse Ukraine sold off a shit load of their share of the soviet military assets. They had a fucking top of the line aircraft carrier for a brief, glorious moment.

bdf465 No.86292[Go to top]

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i mean, the reason why tons of migrants keep flooding from south of the border totally isnt the fault of the CIA destabilizing nations where they're coming from, right? oh, totally not true who would believe that?

bdf465 No.86293[Go to top]

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>>86291
really? LOL

say what what you will about the soviets but they had some tope of the fucking line military equipment

d34624 No.86294[Go to top]

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>>86292
in terms of African migrants it's 100% the result of toppling Gaddafi. Since he had programs set up to take in and employ refugees from Sub-Saharan Africa. Which is why they were all headed for Libya in the first place. And now human traffickers that have set up shop in Benghazi just stuff them onto boats and send across the Mediterranean.

d34624 No.86296[Go to top]

>>86293
Yeah I was into planes and airshows and shit back when I was young in the late 80s and early 90s. And the soviets had some really crazy tech that could match step with anything the USA had. Now it's all just a bunch of paper tiger garbage, lol.

128bca No.86297[Go to top]

>>86294
that's what he fucking deserved for trying to circumvent the petrodollar tbh
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>>86294
that's what he fucking got for trying to circumvent the petrodollar tbh

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>>86294
but the biggest question i have is

why? why did the west choose to fuck that up?

this could have been a huge win for both europe and africa

now europe is flooded with millions of africans sitting on free gibs and causing chaos whereas instead they coudve had a bettter productive lifestyle in their OWN country

fucking hell the globohome is so evil lmao

bdf465 No.86299[Go to top]

>>86296
oh yeah, russian equipment now is a sad shadow of its former self

70's to early 80's USSR was its peak

though credit belongs where its due for modern russia those AK's will still be really good for decades to come

theres a reason its one of the most loved rifles on the planet

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>>86298
see
>>86297
Gaddafi was creating his own gold-backed currency for an independent African Central bank in order to create an independent African Union to stand proud and equal to the US and Europe.

UK Parliament actually established a commission to look into the Libyan conflict after the fact and found that one of the key motivating factors was that France was worried about the economic implications of Gaddafi's philanthropic activities and that Nicholas Sarkozy had some shady backroom dealings in which he and his friends personally stood to loose a lot of money as a result.

bdf465 No.86301[Go to top]

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>>86300
okay, that makes sense

(((they))) were afraid of healthy competition

well good job, they sure fixed everything by making lives worse for others in europe

they sure owned them

d34624 No.86303[Go to top]

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>>86301
The fucked up thing is that even though all of this information is out there to be found, in plain sight, it's not some secret classified CIA document… It's not some crazy Qoomer conspiracy theory…

99.9999% of people's understanding of the Libyan war is "Gaddafi bomb civilian, bad, now ded, good."

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>>86303
>99.9999% of people's understanding of the Libyan war is "Gaddafi bomb civilian, bad, now ded, good."
yeah lmao

i always knew all of that was bullshit

they're doing the same shit with assad

…wait, is assad even around anymore?

d34624 No.86307[Go to top]

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>>86306
Yeah. Russia rained on NATO's parade in Syria and nobody wanted to call his bluff. I mean Syria is still fucked up and a quarter million people are still dead, but Ukraine is current thing, now.

bdf465 No.86308[Go to top]

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>>86307
assad is kinda like a double-edged sword though

because he kinda keeps things stabilized in syria but also can be really bad

>but Ukraine is current thing, now.

i wonder for how long?

d34624 No.86309[Go to top]

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>>86308
I mean he's bad by western standards, but the Syria he wants is a much more liberal place than the Syria his opponents want. The same was true in Iraq and Libya. The exception being Afghanistan where I don't think you could get any less liberal than the Taliban.

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>>86309
One of the funny ironies of the back and forth proxy battling in the middle east between NATO and Russia. The Soviet union picked all of the very liberal states as allies during the cold war and the US ended up befriending all the assholes who were leftover in their counter-maneuvering, leaving Russia to inherit a lot of allies who are more compatible with western values than a lot of the god-awful bedfellows we have out there.

bdf465 No.86313[Go to top]

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>>86309
well what i mean is, assad is sort of necessary evil in s way. the same was true for sadam

NATO just wants to intall their own puppets into these nations but that doesnt work as easy as they imagined and creates an even worst scenario

this is why groups like ISIS exist

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>>86311
funny how that works, huh?

d34624 No.86367[Go to top]

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According to this blue checkmark the actual draft is 1 million.

https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status/1572912790498680833?s=46&t=Yhh6r6IIgFLqASE5UDb5NQ

19307d No.86375[Go to top]

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>>86224
Landlines are necessary for secure communications. Not to mention jamming issues, which come up simply by being a figure who needs to ensure nobody can wirelessly detonate some shit.
I'm pretty sure we still use em.
Same for fax machines, really. Still in every major office space out there.



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